garchomp6000
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Post by garchomp6000 on Mar 29, 2013 3:23:39 GMT -5
WARNING: Some censored swearing.
How about we get builds from the old world and transfer to whatever new world there is and replace any RP blocks there (Marble=Quartz for obvious reasons). I understand that people have a lot of hard work (heck, I've played on other servers, I've suffered 3 server restarts, everyone didn't give a crap) and tons of items. It does take a LONG time to retrieve everything you've lost from the restart. If you want it to not restart, then I'll stay as a forum guy and stay outta the server (doubt some of you even give a sh*t about that). It is just a game. If you lost all your stuff in single player cause you were on hardcore mode, you'd suffer. But then you'd just carry on. We all know that almost everyone has put in heaps and heaps of time into their builds, but sometimes you have to let go. I've lost my very first world in Minecraft, but I didn't really care because I became a multiplayer guy. Take what you lost, and turn them into lessons.
There's my 2 bucks.
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eria8
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Post by eria8 on Mar 29, 2013 7:43:47 GMT -5
Here's my final stance on it all.
Now I know some of us have spent a lot of time and effort in training our pokemon and making our towns and collecting valuable items, myself included, and I will HATE to lose all that. But think about every other video game, where after working so hard beating the game eventually you reset it all and begin anew, with different choices to make, etc. I know it's not a perfect analogy, but it's the same sort of thing in the end. That's essentially what would happen here if the server did get a fresh start. Some of us aren't ready, some of us are ready even though we'll miss our stuff. I'm not even taking the newer players into count when I say that. They have too little to be greatly bothered by this.
Like I've mentioned before, there seem to be only two sides to this.
1) Those who are STRONGLY against, and
2) those who don't want to lose everything but aren't against the potential restart.
In short, I'm on that second side.
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Post by blskis1 on Mar 29, 2013 7:47:02 GMT -5
So far haven't heard from fatal on his views but I can say 2 months the server map has existed for the record I joined about the server about 2 days after it was started with this map.
I honestly never care if there is a Map Reset....really I don't....When i joined though it was RP2 with Pixelmon that got me....as mcdermott found out as I honestly knew....RP is being worked on....She said in one of her Tweets: bugfixes related to 1.4.7 to 1.5
Now as I said I think a few days should be waited out and I do look dayly.
Gar i think is the only one unable to technically join us and for that I honestly can't say i enjoy...I had offered to help but he has declined from my understanding of his replies....I am hoping though no more than a few more days it will be updated.
anyways....
as i said we could start a temp/perm world without RP2....what did i mean?
1 Meant start a new map and RP2 never gets added to it
2 Old map with user files are saved meaning 1.5.1 could be started 'RIGHT NOW'
3 being i am sure Eloraam is updating 1 week update old map with it....Fossils and what not we all know are uncommon in Explored areas alone with RP2 things from explored area before its gen was active. I found it ok and would.
3.2 If not updated go on without it on new map
thats what i meant....temp/perm map...
I am thinking too....just as a side note...I would want to keep tabs of where everyone was in the world..
"WHY BLSK?"
cause I may go chest plurging and find some things to return to players....can't confirm could or may though....
anyways
NEWS ON ADVENTURE MAP:
a major bug with World Painter update to 1.5.1 is causing my PC to be Taxed to its limits....I am trying to salvage... I even hope some update may happen to will allow the save file to render right...But right now i am just hopeful my pc will come through and prevent my progress from being wiped but I will be working on finishing Johto and Hoenn today. but thats if i don't have to wipe the whole map...I am not very happy...
anyways I'll be refreshing my pc of all its ability in the hopes it allows me to do so so i won't be in game till i have fixed the bug.
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eria8
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Post by eria8 on Mar 29, 2013 7:54:15 GMT -5
I think that would be a good idea to have the map backed up until it updates, however, what would happen to the new world once redpower did get updated? Would you have it just deleted and all we've done on there gone just to revert back to a world people are no longer used to or have finally been able to have left behind? That, I'm not happy with. Even though I love redpower, too, Pixelmon is basically the main mod here, not redpower.
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Post by blazefvito on Mar 29, 2013 9:37:57 GMT -5
I think that would be a good idea to have the map backed up until it updates, however, what would happen to the new world once redpower did get updated? Would you have it just deleted and all we've done on there gone just to revert back to a world people are no longer used to or have finally been able to have left behind? That, I'm not happy with. Even though I love redpower, too, Pixelmon is basically the main mod here, not redpower. i agree with you. |
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Post by blazefvito on Mar 29, 2013 10:38:08 GMT -5
found SSJRob greifing the corn field in Ecruteck Beazly.
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Post by blskis1 on Mar 29, 2013 11:32:08 GMT -5
first off you 2.....Main Mods are both not just Pixelmon.... Defintion of a Main Mod in general is World Altering Rest of the mods don't alter world RP2 alters the world the most.. maybe I didn't define Main Mods in the best way....Rest of them do not add more generations as i am sure you all know. Twilight doesn't fall under such though...why...it has its own dimension....it doesn't alter the world...it adds more blocks that can be brought to the world. anyways.... yes the new world would be deleted....thats the defintion of a TEMPORARY WORLD!!!!!!!!!!! As I said in just a few days of time it would probably be updated meaning the world wouldn't of mattered anyways....Hypotheticallly: How much do you think you are going to get done in just say 5 days time.....You start out with nothing at all and have to start getting back up the stuff you had within 2 days I may personally have about 1/500th what i had in current world and maybe 20 pokemon if i got to it....am I saying you would totally loose out on that....I said maybe....there really wasn't any actual changes to 1.5.1 version of Pixelmon.....so its not like your going to have an Articuno or something like that that is so rare that it is silly. The main aspect of the server is Making towns, Friends, Catching pokemon and so on. You loose all your protected land, stuff, towns, so on if the new map was made Perm. am I saying you would loose everything...On the Contrary no.....I have played a fair few hours as you all know right? RIGHT?  ??!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Say you found a Shiny Mareep....Would you loose it? You could show me and I would jot it down.....something like that....can't confirm 100% what i may or may not do...if any other admins have their own 2 cents they would put in they can.... Its not just RP everyone would be loosing...its everything....your assuming its just RP but it is not...there would be no nothing basically and who knows....who knows.....maybe I'll move into a cooler location XD move right to a glacier....oo that would be fun XD EDIT-------------------- meant in a few days time it 'should' not 'would' be updated |
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Post by mcdermott1 on Mar 29, 2013 13:00:19 GMT -5
It seems that we should wait until Fatal gives us an update on all of this business then. He said he'd be on in a week after his opinion to reset the server. But perhaps he'll be on when the server resets, so we'll have to wait and see.
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Post by davidkkz on Mar 30, 2013 10:24:21 GMT -5
WARNING: Some censored swearing. How about we get builds from the old world and transfer to whatever new world there is and replace any RP blocks there (Marble=Quartz for obvious reasons). I understand that people have a lot of hard work (heck, I've played on other servers, I've suffered 3 server restarts, everyone didn't give a crap) and tons of items. It does take a LONG time to retrieve everything you've lost from the restart. If you want it to not restart, then I'll stay as a forum guy and stay outta the server (doubt some of you even give a sh*t about that). It is just a game. If you lost all your stuff in single player cause you were on hardcore mode, you'd suffer. But then you'd just carry on. We all know that almost everyone has put in heaps and heaps of time into their builds, but sometimes you have to let go. I've lost my very first world in Minecraft, but I didn't really care because I became a multiplayer guy. Take what you lost, and turn them into lessons. There's my 2 bucks. We talked about this and he believes it would be better to have a fresh start. Whereas I don't remember and can't explain everything he said, I believe his point was that it would be more fair for newer people. Yes, we are all losing a LOT of our work... and a LOT of work that was done to trade for what would be harder work getting it our selves... Honestly, I don't remember at all the reasoning, but I did ask about taking pictures of pokes people have (apparently transferring Pokemon would not be a problem) and a picture of a chest or two full of items... There was some type of reasoning stating it would be better to have a complete wipe and start fresh. I can ask him again if you'd all like. |
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Post by zeph on Mar 30, 2013 15:42:38 GMT -5
As much as I don't want to lose Ecruteak and the dojo, I believe the updates are much more important. Also, is this map wipe a one time thing? If so it's important to remember that this will not happen again and that whatever is built in the new map will stay for sure. We may lose some great builds but this is minecraft, thats what you do, you build. I sincerely hope Beazly and Blaze will help make a new ecrtueak in the new map, but I understand if you guys don't want to.
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Post by davidkkz on Mar 30, 2013 18:11:49 GMT -5
As much as I don't want to lose Ecruteak and the dojo, I believe the updates are much more important. Also, is this map wipe a one time thing? If so it's important to remember that this will not happen again and that whatever is built in the new map will stay for sure. We may lose some great builds but this is minecraft, thats what you do, you build. I sincerely hope Beazly and Blaze will help make a new ecrtueak in the new map, but I understand if you guys don't want to. Zeph, I thought you quit. o.O I imagined you'd be pissed, I know after building all that I'd probably be... I mean I did a lot of work on Shadowville, but not as much as you... (I want to talk to Rob to see if we can get you as a builder or something) |
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Post by drenrin2120 on Mar 31, 2013 2:24:36 GMT -5
after breezing through other peoples posts, here is my opinion: i always treat anything i do on a server as a zen garden. meaning, im willing to accept it may not exist tomorrow. strategically speaking, the most successful servers are the ones with fewer mods, that way you avoid update issues such as these. that being said i think we have really only two options, update the server excluding redpower and rebuild what we lost or replace blocks in preparation to the best that they can be ahead of time ( that sentiment is mostly expressed towards residents of skytown who will have to replace every marble slab with something else.) with the reset, i agree with whoever mentioned the aspect of starting a new game file, however i also think if we can manage the geographocal changes that come with updating without redpower we can very well still do everything we want to do with a new server. that being mostly in response to the sad state of the current spawn. we can all find ways to adjust the current towns without redpower and we could also just as easily change spawn to make it better, more intuitive and comprehensive with or without a server reset.
so basically, i dont mind a server reset, but if were onky removing a few mods i think we should consider first, testing to see if the server is stable without these mods and secondly seeing if players can adequately adjust to a server without redpower/buildcraft/twilight or whatever other mods will be excluded. if those things are possible, i see no reason why sufficient modifications cant be made to the current server to make it better, i.e., better spawn, better coin system, better use of noppes npc mod, etc.
and on the same token, if these things arent possible i am okay with a server reset as i myself have deleted or damaged many of my own worlds without regret.
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Post by drenrin2120 on Mar 31, 2013 2:27:07 GMT -5
ps, that was made via phone, so please forgive typos and such. mg internet access right now is dismal. that said, i do still hope to have a bonfire at fortree sunday afternoon, if the server is in fact scheduled as planned for reset.
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Post by catolina on Mar 31, 2013 3:08:46 GMT -5
its reset already...
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Post by drenrin2120 on Mar 31, 2013 12:24:12 GMT -5
Well then... nevermind I guess.
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